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measured onAMD Instinct MI355X
declared hardwareAMD Instinct MI355X
architecturesgfx950
dtypesbf16, fp32, fp8_e8m0, int32, mxfp4
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authorsMaxwell Cipher
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"stage":2,"a_dtype":"fp4","b_dtype":"fp4","out_dtype":"bf16",Kernel source
moe_v73_copy.py330 lines
# HIP MoE v73 -- v72 base + CK _4WG128 for E=257 bs=128
#
# v72 proved _4WG128 is dramatically better than _4WG64 for E=257 bs=512:
# 196us → 140us (-29%)!
#
# v73 experiment: Apply same improvement to E=257 bs=128:
# v72: CKtile path (ksplit=2, block_m=16, no FP4 quant) → 175us
# v73: CK path (_4WG128 + FlyDSL, ksplit=0, block_m=32, FP4 quant) → ???
#
# Trade-off:
# + _4WG128 GEMM is much faster (proven for bs=512)
# + FlyDSL stage2 is faster than CKtile stage2
# - CK path adds FP4 quantization overhead (~10-20us)
# - block_m=32 has more padding than block_m=16 (4.5 tokens/expert)
#
# CU utilization:
# 128*9=1152 tokens, 257 experts, ~4.5 tokens/expert
# block_m=32: 257 blocks, _4WG128 → ~65 WGs → 1 CU round (25% utilized)
# Still low, but the faster GEMM kernel may overcome this.
from task import input_t, output_t
import torch
import os
import sys
import functools
from aiter import ActivationType, QuantType, dtypes
from aiter.fused_moe import fused_moe
from aiter.ops.moe_sorting import moe_sorting_fwd
from aiter.ops.triton.quant.fused_mxfp4_quant import fused_dynamic_mxfp4_quant_moe_sort
import aiter.fused_moe as _fm
# =========================================================================== #
# FlyDSL tile registration (needed for stage2 kernel names)
# =========================================================================== #
try:
import aiter.ops.flydsl.moe_kernels as _flydsl
for tm, tn in [(32,128),(32,256),(16,256),(16,128),(64,128),(64,256)]:
_flydsl._KERNEL_PARAMS[f"flydsl_moe2_afp4_wfp4_bf16_t{tm}x{tn}x128_atomic"] = {
"stage":2,"a_dtype":"fp4","b_dtype":"fp4","out_dtype":"bf16",
"tile_m":tm,"tile_n":tn,"tile_k":128,"mode":"atomic","MPerBlock":tm,
}
except ImportError:
pass
# =========================================================================== #
# Per-shape configs (injected into AITER's cfg_2stages)
# =========================================================================== #
def _key(t, i, e):
return (256, t, 7168, i, e, 9, "ActivationType.Silu", "torch.bfloat16",
"torch.float4_e2m1fn_x2", "torch.float4_e2m1fn_x2",
"QuantType.per_1x32", True, False)
_4WG128 = "moe_ck2stages_gemm1_256x128x128x128_1x4_MulABScaleShuffled_v3_Nswizzle0_Quant3_MulRoutedWeight0_silu_FP4X2_FP4X2_B16"
_F16 = "flydsl_moe2_afp4_wfp4_bf16_t16x128x128_atomic"
_CC = {}
# E=33, TP=4 shapes (identical to v65)
_CC[_key(16, 512, 33)] = {
"block_m": 16, "ksplit": 2,
"kernelName1": "", "kernelName2": "",
"run_1stage": False, "use_non_temporal_load": True,
}
_CC[_key(128, 512, 33)] = {
"block_m": 32, "ksplit": 0,
"kernelName1": _4WG128, "kernelName2": _F16,
"run_1stage": False, "use_non_temporal_load": True,
}
_CC[_key(512, 512, 33)] = {
"block_m": 64, "ksplit": 0,
"kernelName1": _4WG128, "kernelName2": _F16,
"run_1stage": False,
}
_CC[_key(512, 2048, 33)] = {
"block_m": 64, "ksplit": 0,
"kernelName1": _4WG128, "kernelName2": _F16,
"run_1stage": False,
}
# E=257, TP=8 shapes
_CC[_key(16, 256, 257)] = {
"block_m": 16, "ksplit": 2,
"kernelName1": "", "kernelName2": "",
"run_1stage": False, "use_non_temporal_load": True,
}
# CHANGED: CKtile (ksplit=2) → CK _4WG128 (ksplit=0) for E=257 bs=128
_CC[_key(128, 256, 257)] = {
"block_m": 32, "ksplit": 0,
"kernelName1": _4WG128, "kernelName2": _F16,
"run_1stage": False, "use_non_temporal_load": True,
}
# v72 improvement: _4WG128 for E=257 bs=512
_CC[_key(512, 256, 257)] = {
"block_m": 32, "ksplit": 0,
"kernelName1": _4WG128, "kernelName2": _F16,
"run_1stage": False, "use_non_temporal_load": True,
}
# =========================================================================== #
# Injection + metadata capture with NT load patching
# =========================================================================== #
_injected = False
_captured_meta = {}
_cu = None
def _inject():
global _injected
if _injected:
return
_injected = True
if _fm.cfg_2stages is None:
_fm.cfg_2stages = {}
for k, v in _CC.items():
_fm.cfg_2stages[k] = v
orig = _fm.get_2stage_cfgs
@functools.lru_cache(maxsize=2048)
def _p(*a):
global _cu
m = orig(*a)
if _cu is None:
try:
from aiter.jit.utils.chip_info import get_cu_num
_cu = get_cu_num()
except Exception:
_cu = 256
keys = (_cu, a[0], a[1], a[2], a[3], a[4],
str(a[10]), str(a[5]), str(a[6]), str(a[7]),
str(a[8]), a[9], a[11])
c = _CC.get(keys)
if c and c.get("use_non_temporal_load"):
s = m.stage1
kw = getattr(s, 'keywords', None) or {}
if hasattr(s, 'func') and 'use_non_temporal_load' in kw:
nk = dict(kw)
nk['use_non_temporal_load'] = True
m = _fm.MOEMetadata(
functools.partial(s.func, **nk),
m.stage2, m.block_m, m.ksplit,
m.run_1stage, m.has_bias, True)
_captured_meta[(a[0], a[1], a[2], a[3], a[4])] = m
return m
_fm.get_2stage_cfgs = _p
# =========================================================================== #
# Per-shape cache for direct dispatch
# =========================================================================== #
_shape_cache = {}
def _init_shape(data, shape_key):
"""First call: run fused_moe to populate metadata, build dispatch cache."""
hs = data[0]; guw_sh = data[5]; dw_sh = data[6]
guws_sh = data[7]; dws_sh = data[8]
tw = data[9]; ti = data[10]; cfg = data[11]
M = cfg['bs']
E = cfg['n_routed_experts'] + cfg['n_shared_experts']
topk = ti.shape[1]
hp = cfg['d_hidden_pad'] - cfg['d_hidden']
ip = cfg['d_expert_pad'] - cfg['d_expert']
device = hs.device
result = fused_moe(
hs, guw_sh, dw_sh, tw, ti,
expert_mask=None, activation=ActivationType.Silu,
quant_type=QuantType.per_1x32, doweight_stage1=False,
w1_scale=guws_sh, w2_scale=dws_sh,
a1_scale=None, a2_scale=None,
hidden_pad=hp, intermediate_pad=ip,
)
_, model_dim, inter_dim = _fm.get_inter_dim(guw_sh.shape, dw_sh.shape)
padded_M = _fm.get_padded_M(M)
meta_key = (padded_M, model_dim, inter_dim, E, topk)
metadata = _captured_meta.get(meta_key)
if metadata is None:
print(f"[V73] No metadata for {shape_key}, using fallback",
file=sys.stderr, flush=True)
_shape_cache[shape_key] = None
return result
block_m = int(metadata.block_m)
ksplit = int(metadata.ksplit)
max_tok = M * topk + E * block_m - topk
max_blk = (max_tok + block_m - 1) // block_m
_shape_cache[shape_key] = {
'meta': metadata,
'block_m': block_m,
'ksplit': ksplit,
'topk': topk,
'E': E,
'M': M,
'model_dim': model_dim,
'inter_dim': inter_dim,
'hp': hp,
'ip': ip,
'sid': torch.empty(max_tok, dtype=torch.int32, device=device),
'sw': torch.empty(max_tok, dtype=torch.float32, device=device),
'seid': torch.empty(max_blk, dtype=torch.int32, device=device),
'nvi': torch.empty(2, dtype=torch.int32, device=device),
}
s1 = metadata.stage1
s1k = getattr(s1, 'keywords', {}) if hasattr(s1, 'func') else {}
nt_val = s1k.get('use_non_temporal_load', 'N/A')
s1name = s1.func.__name__ if hasattr(s1, 'func') else str(s1)[:40]
print(f"[V73] Init {shape_key}: block_m={block_m} ksplit={ksplit} "
f"inter={inter_dim} model={model_dim} nt={nt_val} stage1={s1name}",
file=sys.stderr, flush=True)
return result
def _direct_dispatch(data, c):
"""Direct dispatch: handles both CK and CKtile paths."""
hs = data[0]; guw_sh = data[5]; dw_sh = data[6]
guws_sh = data[7]; dws_sh = data[8]
tw = data[9]; ti = data[10]
meta = c['meta']
block_m = c['block_m']
ksplit = c['ksplit']
topk = c['topk']
E = c['E']
M = c['M']
model_dim = c['model_dim']
inter_dim = c['inter_dim']
sid = c['sid']; sw = c['sw']; seid = c['seid']; nvi = c['nvi']
device = hs.device
# 1. Sorting
moe_buf = torch.empty(M, model_dim, dtype=torch.bfloat16, device=device)
moe_sorting_fwd(ti, tw, sid, sw, seid, nvi, moe_buf,
E, block_m, None, None, 0)
if ksplit > 0:
# CKtile path: bf16 activations, no fp4 quantization
a1 = hs.to(torch.bfloat16)
a2_placeholder = torch.empty(M, topk, inter_dim,
dtype=torch.bfloat16, device=device)
a2 = meta.stage1(
a1, guw_sh, dw_sh, sid, seid, nvi, a2_placeholder, topk,
block_m=block_m, a1_scale=None,
w1_scale=guws_sh.view(dtypes.fp8_e8m0),
sorted_weights=None)
meta.stage2(
a2, guw_sh, dw_sh, sid, seid, nvi, moe_buf, topk,
w2_scale=dws_sh.view(dtypes.fp8_e8m0),
a2_scale=None, block_m=block_m, sorted_weights=sw)
else:
# CK path: fp4 quantized activations
a1, a1_scale = fused_dynamic_mxfp4_quant_moe_sort(
hs, sorted_ids=sid, num_valid_ids=nvi,
token_num=M, topk=1, block_size=block_m)
a2 = torch.empty(M, topk, inter_dim, dtype=torch.bfloat16, device=device)
a2 = meta.stage1(
a1, guw_sh, dw_sh, sid, seid, nvi, a2, topk,
block_m=block_m, a1_scale=a1_scale,
w1_scale=guws_sh.view(dtypes.fp8_e8m0),
sorted_weights=None)
a2_flat = a2.view(-1, inter_dim)
a2_q, a2_scale = fused_dynamic_mxfp4_quant_moe_sort(
a2_flat, sorted_ids=sid, num_valid_ids=nvi,
token_num=M, topk=topk, block_size=block_m)
a2 = a2_q.view(M, topk, -1)
meta.stage2(
a2, guw_sh, dw_sh, sid, seid, nvi, moe_buf, topk,
w2_scale=dws_sh.view(dtypes.fp8_e8m0),
a2_scale=a2_scale, block_m=block_m, sorted_weights=sw)
return moe_buf
def _fallback(data):
"""Safe fallback: full fused_moe dispatch."""
hs = data[0]; guw_sh = data[5]; dw_sh = data[6]
guws_sh = data[7]; dws_sh = data[8]
tw = data[9]; ti = data[10]; cfg = data[11]
hp = cfg['d_hidden_pad'] - cfg['d_hidden']
ip = cfg['d_expert_pad'] - cfg['d_expert']
return fused_moe(
hs, guw_sh, dw_sh, tw, ti,
expert_mask=None, activation=ActivationType.Silu,
quant_type=QuantType.per_1x32, doweight_stage1=False,
w1_scale=guws_sh, w2_scale=dws_sh,
a1_scale=None, a2_scale=None,
hidden_pad=hp, intermediate_pad=ip,
)
# =========================================================================== #
# Main entry point
# =========================================================================== #
def custom_kernel(data: input_t) -> output_t:
_inject()
cfg = data[11]
shape_key = (cfg['bs'], cfg['d_expert'],
cfg['n_routed_experts'] + cfg['n_shared_experts'])
if shape_key not in _shape_cache:
return _init_shape(data, shape_key)
c = _shape_cache[shape_key]
if c is None:
return _fallback(data)
try:
return _direct_dispatch(data, c)
except Exception as e:
print(f"[V73] Dispatch err {shape_key}: {str(e)[:200]}",
file=sys.stderr, flush=True)
import traceback
traceback.print_exc(file=sys.stderr)
_shape_cache[shape_key] = None
return _fallback(data)
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Source code from GPU Mode and the KernelBot dataset · June 9 Researcher Reciprocity License v1.0
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Against this author's previous submission submission 673796.
- # HIP MoE v72 -- v65 base + _4WG128 for E=257 bs=512+ # HIP MoE v73 -- v72 base + CK _4WG128 for E=257 bs=128#- # v71 proved CSV configs are MUCH WORSE for E=257 shapes:- # bs=16: 90.6us (ours) vs 140us (CSV) — CSV 54% slower- # bs=128: 175us vs 219us — CSV 25% slower- # bs=512: 196us vs 252us — CSV 29% slower- # CSV uses 1WG CK kernels (64x32) which are slower than our CKtile/4WG+FlyDSL.- # NEVER load CSV for E=257.+ # v72 proved _4WG128 is dramatically better than _4WG64 for E=257 bs=512:+ # 196us → 140us (-29%)!#- # v72 experiment: E=257 bs=512 stage1 _4WG64 → _4WG128- # - _4WG64: MPerBlock=64, processes 2 sorting blocks (64/32) per WG- # - _4WG128: MPerBlock=128, processes 4 sorting blocks (128/32) per WG- # - Both fit in 1 CU round for 257 experts, but _4WG128 does more work/WG- # - E=33 shapes already use _4WG128 successfully+ # v73 experiment: Apply same improvement to E=257 bs=128:+ # v72: CKtile path (ksplit=2, block_m=16, no FP4 quant) → 175us+ # v73: CK path (_4WG128 + FlyDSL, ksplit=0, block_m=32, FP4 quant) → ???#- # All other shapes IDENTICAL to v65.+ # Trade-off:+ # + _4WG128 GEMM is much faster (proven for bs=512)+ # + FlyDSL stage2 is faster than CKtile stage2+ # - CK path adds FP4 quantization overhead (~10-20us)+ # - block_m=32 has more padding than block_m=16 (4.5 tokens/expert)+ #+ # CU utilization:+ # 128*9=1152 tokens, 257 experts, ~4.5 tokens/expert+ # block_m=32: 257 blocks, _4WG128 → ~65 WGs → 1 CU round (25% utilized)+ # Still low, but the faster GEMM kernel may overcome this.from task import input_t, output_timport torch⋯ 29 unchanged lines"QuantType.per_1x32", True, False)_4WG128 = "moe_ck2stages_gemm1_256x128x128x128_1x4_MulABScaleShuffled_v3_Nswizzle0_Quant3_MulRoutedWeight0_silu_FP4X2_FP4X2_B16"- _4WG64 = "moe_ck2stages_gemm1_256x64x128x128_1x4_MulABScaleShuffled_v3_Nswizzle0_Quant3_MulRoutedWeight0_silu_FP4X2_FP4X2_B16"_F16 = "flydsl_moe2_afp4_wfp4_bf16_t16x128x128_atomic"_CC = {}⋯ 24 unchanged lines"kernelName1": "", "kernelName2": "","run_1stage": False, "use_non_temporal_load": True,}+ # CHANGED: CKtile (ksplit=2) → CK _4WG128 (ksplit=0) for E=257 bs=128_CC[_key(128, 256, 257)] = {- "block_m": 16, "ksplit": 2,- "kernelName1": "", "kernelName2": "",+ "block_m": 32, "ksplit": 0,+ "kernelName1": _4WG128, "kernelName2": _F16,"run_1stage": False, "use_non_temporal_load": True,}- # CHANGED: _4WG64 → _4WG128 for E=257 bs=512+ # v72 improvement: _4WG128 for E=257 bs=512_CC[_key(512, 256, 257)] = {"block_m": 32, "ksplit": 0,"kernelName1": _4WG128, "kernelName2": _F16,⋯ 89 unchanged linesmetadata = _captured_meta.get(meta_key)if metadata is None:- print(f"[V72] No metadata for {shape_key}, using fallback",+ print(f"[V73] No metadata for {shape_key}, using fallback",file=sys.stderr, flush=True)_shape_cache[shape_key] = Nonereturn result⋯ 24 unchanged liness1k = getattr(s1, 'keywords', {}) if hasattr(s1, 'func') else {}nt_val = s1k.get('use_non_temporal_load', 'N/A')s1name = s1.func.__name__ if hasattr(s1, 'func') else str(s1)[:40]- print(f"[V72] Init {shape_key}: block_m={block_m} ksplit={ksplit} "+ print(f"[V73] Init {shape_key}: block_m={block_m} ksplit={ksplit} "f"inter={inter_dim} model={model_dim} nt={nt_val} stage1={s1name}",file=sys.stderr, flush=True)⋯ 99 unchanged linestry:return _direct_dispatch(data, c)except Exception as e:- print(f"[V72] Dispatch err {shape_key}: {str(e)[:200]}",+ print(f"[V73] Dispatch err {shape_key}: {str(e)[:200]}",file=sys.stderr, flush=True)import tracebacktraceback.print_exc(file=sys.stderr)
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